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Some Thoughts on Spelling, One-of-a-kind Chainrings, and Non-Red-Clover-Components Triplizers

11/17/2014

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PictureA 110 BCD triplizer from Interloc Racing Designs. The design is a little swoopy for my taste, but it does the job.
The Red Clover Components site has been on its feet for just over a year now, and has had enough visitors that it pops up at the top of the results page when you go to Google and type in the word “triplizer.”

On the other hand, the variant spellings “triple-izer” or “tripleizer” don’t take you there so directly. I might be able to help the search engine along by including those spellings on the site from time to time, but I've resisted doing that because I don’t like either one.

The first is awkward, and the second—if you adhere to the sturdy old i-before-e-except-after-c rule—would be pronounced “triple-azer.” (Or—if you follow the example of the word “seize”—“triple-ezer”.) After 30 years as a writer and editor, it’s hard for me to deliberately misspell a word, even if it works to my benefit.

My top-of-the-search-results position means that I also hear from quite a few riders who want to know if I’d consider making  46-tooth 151 BCD triplizer for pre-1967 Campagnolo cranks, a 38-tooth 128 BCD triplizer for an old Nervar crank, or maybe a 35-tooth standard ring for a 116 BCD 3-bolt Campagnolo crank.

The answer, I regret to say, is “no.” It evidently is possible to run a successful small business machining one-of-a kind rings on a custom basis--Highpath Engineering in Wales once offered this service—but that’s not a business I know how to make work.

So although I may expand my product line a bit someday, for now I’m only making three specific rings—two triplizers and one low-tooth-count inner ring for a double—that have fairly broad appeal for old-bike nerds, which allows me to make them in batches of a couple of dozen or so at a time.

Oh, what the hell! Make that “two tripleizers or triple-izers and one low-tooth-count inner ring for a double.”

Google, please take note.

Other Triplizers
In my capacity as Triplizer Czar, I also get fairly frequent inquiries from people looking for triplizer rings for current-production 110, 130, and 135 BCD cranksets. Here I can offer some good news: I don’t make triplizers in those sizes, but only because several other manufacturers already do.  If you’re looking for a triplizer in one of those three sizes, here’s where to find it.


Interloc Racing Designs/IRD (http://www.interlocracing.com/) makes a 110 BCD chainring that comes in 36- and 34-tooth versions. The IRD triplizer is compatible with any five-arm 110 BCD cranks except modern Campagnolo “hidden bolt” models, which have four mounting bolts on a 110 mm circle and the fifth at 112. It accepts any 74 BCD inner ring.

The French component manufacturer Specialities TA (http://www.specialites-ta.com/gb/produits-rte.html) makes a 110 BCD triplizer ring called the Zephyr K, which is available in 36-, 38-, and 40-tooth versions. TA also makes the 130 BCD Alize K triplizer ring—available in 38, 39, 40, and 42 teeth—and the 135 BCD Vento K in 39, 40,and 42 teeth.

All of the TA triplizers have permanently swaged-in-place chainring nuts for the 74 BCD inner ring. That makes assembly a bit easier compared to the IRD and Red Clover Components triplizers, which use separate inner nuts, but if you manage to strip one of them you're out of luck.


None of the TA triplizer rings seem to be readily available in the U.S., although several online retailers in France and the U.K. will apparently ship them internationally. If you’re sufficiently determined and not in a big hurry for delivery, you should be able to find a source with the help of our old friend Google.

Finally, Stronglight (http://www.stronglight.com) makes what it calls an “intermediare porteur triple” (a phrase unhelpfully translated by Babelfish as “triple bearing intermediate”) for 130 BCD cranksets. It comes in an unusually wide range of sizes: 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, and 46 teeth, making it a promising candidate for some half-step-and-granny setups. It’s  carried by XXcycle (http://www.xxcycle.com), a French online retailer that I’ve had good experiences with when ordering some other hard-to-find components.

Cognitive Dissonance
Unfortunately, pictures of the Stronglight triplizer leave me baffled. It seems to me that the inner arms on the chainring—which contain the mounting holes for the inner granny ring, and are aligned with the outer 130 BCD mounting holes—would unavoidably  interfere with the “ledges” found on the inner face of most crankset spiders. (The Red Clover Components 144 triplizer—like the now-discontinued TA triplizer of the same size--uses a similar in-line design, but incorporates a rectangular “window” to accommodate the crankarm ledges.)

I can imagine that the Stronglight triplizer would work if those crankarm ledges were removed with a grinding wheel. But I can’t imagine that a manufacturer of Stronglight’s stature would sell a chainring that requires structural modifications to any crankset meant to accept it.

Is there anyone out there who has actually used Stronglight’s intermediare porteur triple?  If there is, please get in touch and explain to me how it works. My curiosity is strong on this point--although not quite strong enough that I’m ready to buy one of the rings and puzzle it out for myself.

Picture
What am I not understanding here? How can this possibly fit on a standard crankarm spider?
7 Comments
joyspring
4/29/2015 05:50:05 am

I have been using the Stronglight 42T triplizer on a Suntour Cyclone crank for many years; your musings regarding fitment are indeed correct.

I fixtured the crank arm and removed the `ledges' for the inner (middle) position on a Bridgeport.

The end result is far cleaner in appearance than the TA Alize/Zephyr K, Willow and IRD; however, it does require milling the crank.

I can provide photos upon request.

best,
Robert

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Jon Vara link
4/30/2015 02:04:20 am

Thanks for that information, Robert. I'd love to see some photos of your setup--you can send them to [email protected].

Would you mind if I used one or more of your photos in a future blog post?

Jon V.

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Fabricio
1/12/2016 02:10:37 pm

Answering the question about the Stronglight model on the last line, it'll work only in a few crank models. Stronglight cranksets do not have a step where we usually fix the middle chainring, they have a flat arm. This is why it works. I discovered this when I tried to install my Stronglight triplizer chainring on a Ritchey WCS 130 BCD crankset that I use on my road bike, to do a mountainous short trip. I had already bought the long italian octalink bb axle when discovered this problem... as lucky as I am, was needed to buy a new italian square axle to install the full Stronglight crankset. If you need some photos to illustrate send me an email. Sorry any english mistake. ;-)

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Érico Miranda Schmitt
9/23/2017 07:37:44 pm

I was wondering if there's any triplizer to replace Athena 11s triple. That is actually already a triplizer, but with inner 94bcd and comes with 30t. Id like to get 24 small ring.

Other fun thing would be a 94 to 74 triplizer, to make that a quad. I'd buy it.

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Stephen Poole
7/30/2019 11:29:46 am

The Stronglight 130 bcd triplizer would also fit a few Shimano triple road cranks as is. These either have a 74 bcd bolt circle, or else the ridge that normally supports the inner ring on a double spider is removed (at the factory) and a middle ring with an unusual bolt circle (92mm) which only fits a dedicated 30T Shimano inner ring is used; examples include Dura-Ace 7703 & 7803, and IIRC Ultegra 6703, but there may be others too. The Stronglight triplizer would allow those cranks to accept a standard sized, and smaller, inner (down to 24T), whilst still looking neat.

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p. martin
9/28/2019 07:34:33 pm

About : '' Specialities TA (http://www.specialites-ta.com/gb/produits-rte.html) makes a 110 BCD triplizer ring called the Zephyr K, which is available in 36-, 38-, and 40-tooth versions ''
I need a 40 th and is no longer available , 38 th is the only one available in 110 bcd .

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William Smith
7/24/2022 02:07:45 am

Not really to do with chainrings, but rather the spelling of "czar." As a transliteration of the Russian word царь, "tsar" would, arguably, be more accurate, and I think you probably see it more often. Czar always reminds me of Caesar. Coming to the word for the first time, tsar would probably give the pronunciation closest to the Russian one. But, as they say, you pays your money...

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